This is a repost from 2009. It is my submission for
Sepia Saturday's remembrance of World War I. I reference two online folks who were able to fill in some of the lost information about the photo. One of them, Eloh, has been missing in action for many years from her blog. At some point someone has gone in and deleted all the very funny stories she told.
I again thank both of them for providing the information they did.
And I do recall that a writer from Wisconsin or Michigan—I can't remember—contacted me about using the photo in a story she was writing for a local paper. I was told I'd be sent a link to the article. Of course I never was. It's happened many times that I've given folks permission to use something with the stipulation they eventually either send me a copy of the book or a link to the piece. Too often they simply don't follow through with their side of the deal.
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I have no information about this photograph. I don't know if this World War I graveyard is stateside or in Europe. It's sad, mysterious, and just plain interesting. Nothing is written on the back. Perhaps someday someone will stumble across it in Flickr who knows something about it.
Click on image to see it larger.
List of names that I was able to clearly read:
- Charles A. Vogt / Pvt 50Co.T.C. 17 Grand Div / Died 1919
- Charles J. Vallier Jr. / Sgt. 311 Engrs / Died Mar. 6. 1919
- John C Zitzmann / Col or Sgt Heqrs Co 312 ??? / Died Oct. 13. 1918
- Macgo Alston / Pvt CoD 304 Labor ??? / Died Jan. 6. 1919
- Robert Illig / Pvt Co A 38 Engrs / Died
- Edward P Bowe?? / Wagoner
- Clarence V. Fanning / Pvt Co D 312 Engrs / Died Jan. 7. 1919
- Michael J Connolly / Pvt Hdqs Co ??? / Died ???
- Walter C Skole / Mechanic CoG 344 Inf / Died ???
- Albert C. Welch / Sgt. CoF 348 Inf / Died Feb. 5. 1919
- Ernest Bisbee / Wagoner Sply Co 348 Inf / Died Nov. 4. 1918
- Eugene B. Ball / Corpl 15 Engrs / Died Mar. 13. 1919
- David L Dosh??? / Cook CoM ??? / Died Feb. 9. 1919
To see the people in the photo even larger click
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From Eloh:
I looked at the larger photo, wow, there is some "silent film" going on isn't there. A whole movie in the expressions and body language.
The woman, possibly Graves Registration? She's wearing what seems to be a campaign ribbon on her lapel. It could be a flower stem or a pencil in her right hand and it looks like papers between her purse and body. I'm stumped with the pockets both full of hankies. They could be scented, but the exhumed remains really wouldn't be that stinky. Maybe she just has a heart, maybe fashion?
The full bird colonel is obviously upset with her. He is used to getting things his way. On his collar is the Engineer insignia and the Combat Infantrymans. Color is a problem with the rank of the other two, but one thing about the Army, some things stay the same. I'll still be guessing that the oak leaf is gold and that Major is the Colonels' Aid. (Personal secretary). Color problems again, and again it would normally be a silver bar of a First Lieutenant, could be a Captain at that angle of the photo, but he is young and not paying attention to his surroundings, he is only interested in what that Bird Colonel wants. He is also wearing Engineer Insignia. I can't make out the patch, left shoulder it would tell us what "Army" he was assigned to.
(7th Army has been in Europe since WWII)
I noticed in your list of names a Junior and thought it the most likely to connect up to something useful. I was lucky as he did have a child.
This is a relocation of soldiers killed in France.
Charles J. Vallier Jr. / Sgt. 311 Engrs / Died Mar. 6. 1919
Born: 10 Jul 1888 Place: Of, Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Died: 6 Mar 1919 Place: , , , France
Wife's Name
Mae MINN
Born: Abt. 1892 Place:
one child listed as still living.
It will be very interesting to find out where his body is today.
From Lori:
I am pretty sure the cemetery is Suresnes, Ile de France, France. The American military cemetery at Suresnes was established in 1917 by the Graves Registration Service of the Army Quartermaster Corps. A majority of the World War I dead buried there died of wounds or sickness in hospitals located in Paris or at other places administered by the Services of Supply. (Many were victims of the influenza epidemic of 1918-1919.) The graves area consists of four burial plots: three of World War I, with a total of 1541 graves, and one of World War II, containing the graves of 24 unknown soldiers, sailors, or airmen.
At least one of the names (Ernest Bisbee) on the list is buried there. I didn’t find any family trees looking for Charles Vallier.
Thanks to both of you for helping to fill in the pieces. Perhaps someday someone looking for information about their ancestors will find this photo online.
Update: Thank you to Natalie Karst for finding and sending the following two newspaper clippings relating to Walter C. Skole in the list above. Because of her sleuthing we now know the cemetery was Carbon Blanc and that it is possible the woman in the photo is Edith Wilson, wife of President Woodrow Wilson.
It's always so rewarding when I post something and even more comes back to me than I initially posted. I can't thank those who participate enough. It's a little thread of history.
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To see another post about a U.S. soldier who lost his life during war please visit my link to the Sgt. C. E. Mower which now contains many new images from the shipboard newsletter from the 1940s provided by reader D. Kauffman.
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